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			<title>Soo, shot my slug gun today</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 05:40:07 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>So shot my slug gun today, when rested properly it was hitting a little high at 50 yards, but that makes it better for longer shots that tend to...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>So shot my slug gun today, when rested properly it was hitting a little high at 50 yards, but that makes it better for longer shots that tend to happen where I hunt, the tru-glo's are a lot easier to acquire the target with, set the orange pin on the target, adjust the greens, and they are quite effective in low light.</div>

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			<title>the economy and deer hunting</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 22:57:38 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>it looks like the economy has caused a decrease in tag sales in a lot of counties this year as compared to last.some may be waiting till the last...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>it looks like the economy has caused a decrease in tag sales in a lot of counties this year as compared to last.some may be waiting till the last daily drawings to buy theirs.i know this year,im camping to save money.ive also noticed many outfitters discounting their hunts.makes you wonder where it will end.</div>

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			<title>Ho Hum</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 21:25:34 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Is it Oct yet ?

I just know it's going to be one of those Oct's that rains all month.
Seems to happen every time we have a dry summer only good...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Is it Oct yet ?<br />
<br />
I just know it's going to be one of those Oct's that rains all month.<br />
Seems to happen every time we have a dry summer only good thing is I didn't have to mow the lawn much. :D</div>

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			<title>Shot placement ~ archery</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 19:52:25 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I was just wondering what everyone's preferred shot placement was/is for archery deer hunting & why.
I prefer double lung because it's a larger...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I was just wondering what everyone's preferred shot placement was/is for archery deer hunting &amp; why.<br />
I prefer double lung because it's a larger target area and a short run before it's all over.</div>

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			<title>Deer hunter checklist - bow</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 19:15:56 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>1) test and practice shooting bow.  I have an old set of three spring arm pull aparts.  work great in strengthening the arm
2) Scout the area.  I...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>1) test and practice shooting bow.  I have an old set of three spring arm pull aparts.  work great in strengthening the arm<br />
2) Scout the area.  I like to start at walking the creak then finding their trails from there<br />
3) determine stand location.  Again for those hunting public land set multiple locations.  I do a printout of google earth and mark my spots of interest on the paper.  repair any permanent ones with whatever is needed.<br />
4) step off 10, 20, and 30 yards from your stand location and mark them with orange tags<br />
5) journal everything, if the corn is still up what will happen if it comes down.  how will the deer change their movements. write down everything you learned. check food conditions acorns, beans, persimmons, etc.  try to determine bedding areas in open fields and such<br />
6) buy licenses and get current with all hunting requirements.  for bow hunting license, habitat stamp, and deer tag.  For shotgun add FOID card (check expiration date).  note dates of youth hunt. be good and go by or at least call the land owner and tell them your hunting this year.  tell them were your going to be hunting at<br />
7) Start getting out your hunting clothes ready.  I wash mine with purex free.  Non-washables I let sit outside to air out.  I get my car trunk organized and get my two tubs ready to be there to house my clothes and boots. by permanone spray dont put it the day before you hunt<br />
8) do you have a first aid kit.  I keep a couple of large bandaids, guase, and a bottle of hydrogen pyroxcide.  this is cheap and I have used it once.<br />
9) sharpen your deer knife and I keep a pair of rubber gloves for field dressing.  I usually by a double roll of paper towels and I have my wife wash me out a couple of gallon milk jugs for water later. I have a bone saw kit ready to go and a tarp for the carcass.<br />
10) get your deer pack ready and make sure things are functioning.  I bring binoculars, deer calls, deer scent, netting for head, bug spray, screw hook, roll of toilet paper or usually some TP in a plastic bag, whistle, jumbo trash bag (if it rains, cut holes for head and arms, you have a cheap rain parka),  energy bar to eat, and a bottle of water to drink (get the kind made of thicker plastic so they dont make noise)<br />
11) Bad weather, I have a stand umbrella available. disposable heat packs. rope<br />
12) waterproof your boots<br />
13) I have a safety harness, and I have my blaze orange available when youth hunts come in.</div>

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			<title>Pre-Season Jitters??</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 02:03:03 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I wanted to know if  anyone  here has ever had what I call jitters when they first started out bow hunting.  This is my first season so I've  been...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I wanted to know if  anyone  here has ever had what I call jitters when they first started out bow hunting.  This is my first season so I've  been practing steady since February.  been shooting tight groups up until this point ( baseball size groups  at 30 yards, not sure if that's any good for a beginner but I'll take it until I get better) now all of a sudden my arrows are all over the place.  sad to say but I'm starting to lose confidence that I'll be able to make a good shot when the time comes.  If you guys have experienced this, how did you guys/gals get past it?  I appreciate the advice.<br />
Thanks<br />
<br />
Keith</div>

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			<title>Info on Illinois deer management strategies</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 01:19:36 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I found this site pretty informative. 

http://web.extension.illinois.edu/deer/strategy.cfm</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I found this site pretty informative. <br />
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<a href="http://web.extension.illinois.edu/deer/strategy.cfm" target="_blank">http://web.extension.illinois.edu/deer/strategy.cfm</a></div>

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			<title>Buck Activity Down on Trail Cams</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:53:48 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Im not seeing the amount of activity on the trail camera from the nicer bucks that I was seeing 2-3 weeks ago... kinda disappointed.  Ive got tons of...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Im not seeing the amount of activity on the trail camera from the nicer bucks that I was seeing 2-3 weeks ago... kinda disappointed.  Ive got tons of does and fawns, but only one young buck has stuck around.  Maybe they are beginning to split up and spread out?  I hope they havent left me!  Hopefully, when the corn comes down, I will see an increase in activity in the woods again.  Please give me some reassurance!</div>

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			<title>Scent Regimines</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:10:48 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I've heard a lot of different scent regimines that people have tried, but what have you found works the best?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I've heard a lot of different scent regimines that people have tried, but what have you found works the best?</div>

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			<title>Cabin to rent for the 1st gun season</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2010 01:03:33 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Looking to rent a old farm house,cabin or some kind of rooms.
Need to be big enough for 6 or 7 hunters near the Wolf Lake area!


               ...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Looking to rent a old farm house,cabin or some kind of rooms.<br />
Need to be big enough for 6 or 7 hunters near the Wolf Lake area!<br />
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                Thank you, Paul</div>

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			<title>Jacketport</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 01:25:49 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Dont think this has been posted here before.
Looks like it could come in handy for those that put their tree stand harness on before entering the...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Dont think this has been posted here before.<br />
Looks like it could come in handy for those that put their tree stand harness on before entering the woods and need to add layers after getting in the stand, during late season.<br />
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				Easily attach the Jacketport to all of your hunting jackets!  Wear your jacket over your safety harness and the Jacketport allows you to put the strap comfortably through the back of the jacket instead of around your neck or collar.  The Jacketport is ABS molded plastic and has a rubber seal to seal around the strap.  The strap easily comes in and out of the hole and you can cap the hole when you are not using the Jacketport.  Finally you can wear the hood on your hunting jackets with ease!
			
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			<title>$30 off $150 cabela offer</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 23:58:26 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[I just got this in the mail yesterday and have no use for it. It's up for grabs if someone can use it. It says or Current resident on the card so I...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I just got this in the mail yesterday and have no use for it. It's up for grabs if someone can use it. It says or Current resident on the card so I assume anyone can use it. Only good until 9/21 on internet and catalog orders. If someone wants it I'll PM the rebate number and cabelas bucks code to the first taker..</div>

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			<title>Scrapes</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 23:49:34 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I was squirrel hunting Saturday evening and saw what was clearly scrapes throughout the woods.

I would say 4 scrapes on basically the same trail...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I was squirrel hunting Saturday evening and saw what was clearly scrapes throughout the woods.<br />
<br />
I would say 4 scrapes on basically the same trail that formed a circle within the woods no more than a couple hundred yards from each.  This circle was an old logging trail.<br />
<br />
They were obviously recently scraped up.  Not a bunch but new.  It was clear they were tending last years scraps.<br />
<br />
Branches hanging directly over them but they were all dry?<br />
<br />
Any thoughts on this.  I don't remember seeing scrapes this early any other time but then again I never looked.:confused:<br />
<br />
It is very deery woods that I can only squirrel hunt unfortunately although I have heard that a few monsters have been taken there.</div>

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			<title>deer stuff</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 14:43:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>ladder...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>ladder stand<br />
<a href="http://www.farmandfleet.com/products/585056-journeyman_ladder_tree_stand.html?source=googleps" target="_blank">http://www.farmandfleet.com/products...ource=googleps</a><br />
<br />
another<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Guide-Gear%C2%AE-Brush-Ladder-Stand/dp/B0032WSYVK" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Guide-Gear%C2%.../dp/B0032WSYVK</a><br />
<br />
another<br />
<a href="http://www.cabelas.com/link-12/product/0081886419568a.shtml?cmCat=perf&amp;rid=0987654321&amp;cm_mmc=Performics-_-CSE-_-GoogleBaseUSA-_-0081886419568a&amp;mr:trackingCode=55985E9B-A98F-DF11-A0C8-002219318F67&amp;mr:referralID=NA" target="_blank">http://www.cabelas.com/link-12/produ...:referralID=NA</a><br />
buy two and get free shipping<br />
<br />
ridn's favorite (double rail 21 footer - these are heavy)<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Guide-Gear%C2%AE-21-Double-Ladder/dp/B003IPLVTI" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Guide-Gear%C2%.../dp/B003IPLVTI</a><br />
(check sportmans guide, they may have a coupon code and be a hair cheaper)<br />
<br />
climbing sticks 20 feet 39.99<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Guide-Gear%C2%AE-20-Climbing-Stick/dp/B0032X015Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;s=sporting-goods&amp;qid=1283265501&amp;sr=1-2" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Guide-Gear%C2%...3265501&amp;sr=1-2</a><br />
(check sportmans guide, they may have a coupon code and be a hair cheaper)<br />
<br />
3 piece quick sticks 29.99  good price****<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Pk-Guide-Gear%C2%AE-Quick-Sticks/dp/B003XJENAS/ref=sr_1_32?ie=UTF8&amp;s=sporting-goods&amp;qid=1283265570&amp;sr=1-32" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Pk-Guide-Gear%...265570&amp;sr=1-32</a> (check sportmans guide, they may have a coupon code and be a hair cheaper)<br />
<br />
lets all help each other out and start posting prices at stores, will help everyone get their shopping done</div>

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			<title>deer myths</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 14:08:13 GMT</pubDate>
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1. It Can’t Happen To Me:  Nothing flips my switch more than seeing treestand hunters in...</description>
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1. It Can’t Happen To Me:  Nothing flips my switch more than seeing treestand hunters in deer camp who refuse to wear a safety harness. The usual excuse is, “It won’t happen to me.” Which is exactly what most accident victims told a Consumer Product Safety Commission task force formed to review data concerning accidents. The Commission reported that the average age of victims who fell or hung to their death in treestand hunting accidents is 44 years old. These were treestand hunters with up to 20 years of experience that got lazy and too familiar with the risks. In 75 percent of the deaths, the subject was not wearing a Full Body Harness. In this group, 55 percent were using climbing stands and 45 percent lock-on or ladder stands. Most treestand accidents occur when getting into or out of the stand or when putting up or taking down a treestand.<br />
<br />
For the most part, hunters believe it can’t happen to them. Many believe that if they do lose their balance, they could quickly grab something to arrest their fall and regain their balance. Of course these assumptions are both wrong. While lock-on and ladder stand accidents are common, climbers account for a lot of accidents, too, primarily when a hunter fails to attach the top and bottom sections and then loses the foot climber. Another sure way to get into trouble is to attempt to level a stand while sitting in it. Not wearing a safety harness in a treestand doesn’t mean you’re a tough guy. It just means you’re stupid.<br />
<br />
2. Smoke Em Up: I was in an Illinois archery deer camp one year and woke up thinking the place was on fire. Instead, the outfitter had built a bonfire out of old leaves and wood and had his hunters standing in the smoke. “The smoke will mask your odor and the deer will never smell you,” he said. “You need to try this. You can even hunt with the wind at your back and the deer won’t spook.”<br />
<br />
What are you smoking? Those hunters never got a shot all week, but they did have several stories about deer they had seen that avoided their stands. Most whitetail hunters have no idea how well a deer can smell, and that they use their noses as their first line of defense—always. Make sure you follow a meticulous scent control program each and every time to head afield, and always hunt with the wind in your face.<br />
<br />
3. They Can’t See Me: Don’t you love watching those cable TV hunting shows and seeing bowhunters all camo’d up in a treestand—except for their shiny faces and hands? That program will certainly work if the deer never look up, and since many of these shows are filmed on private land where hunting pressure is nil and the hunters have weeks to get a kill on film—you rarely, if ever, see the one that got away. But I do. An uncovered face or hand will shine like a beacon in the night—especially if it is moving. With their less-than-20/20 eyesight, deer depend on seeing movement to warn them of danger, and are always on the lookout for something amiss or wiggling where it isn’t supposed to be. They can spot that shine from far away. Are you willing to risk your entire season on such sloppiness? I’m not.<br />
<br />
4. Hunting in the Wind is a Waste of Time: Just because the wind is blowing doesn’t mean deer shut down their lives. Yes, deer do not like strong winds, which make it hard for them to detect predators amid the noise and motion of branches whipping around. It also affects their ability to smell out a potential problem and detect its source. The truth is, during strong winds the hunting can actually be very good—if you use it to your advantage. That means concentrating in areas protected from the wind, thus eliminating large chunks of ground where the odds are lowered on that day. A moderate wind doesn’t affect deer movement much, but during strong breezes, bucks tend to drop down to lower elevations, draws, hollows and valleys or protected bowls within which they can move about freely while escaping the harshest winds.<br />
<br />
I’d rather hunt days with a light, steady breeze—but I’ve killed a lot of nice bucks on days with strong winds. But one thing’s for sure, you can’t do it if you’re sitting in front of the TV.<br />
<br />
5. Peeing From Your Stand Will Scare Deer Off: The old wives’ tale has it that if you do not bring along a pee bottle to your stand and answer nature’s call on the ground below, you may as well head for the house and find a new spot to. Research has shown, however, that the smell of human urine does not noticeably affect deer, if it affects them at all. One research project with penned deer had the researchers spraying all sorts of things into scrapes to see which deer liked best. In one case they used four things—buck urine, doe-in-estrous urine, human urine and car air freshener. Results? With bucks, doe-in-estrous was the most popular, followed by human urine, then car air freshener, then buck urine.<br />
<br />
Stay as scent free as possible, and don’t turn the ground near your stand into a public urinal, but if you have to go, just go, and keep hunting.<br />
<br />
6. Scrapes are Great Places to Hunt During the Rut: There’s been a lot of research in recent years using trail cameras to find out when bucks are most active at scrapes. What the research has shown is that the best time to hunt scrapes is when you first find them in the woods—usually just ahead of the hard pre-rut. When the rut is in full swing, mature bucks will sometimes check scrapes, but they are more likely to be found cruising between doe bedding thickets and preferred food sources. Research has also shown that multiple bucks will freshen the same scrape, and they range in age from very young to very old, debunking the myth that only mature bucks work a scrape.</div>

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