ok i dnt have my foid card but have it ordered and i cant seem to find a straight awnser and i cant get ahold of the state to awnser my ?

so i was wondering since i have my gun card in the mail for 4 weeks and i have the reciept for it and i have my old one CAN I HUNT??? thats wat im wondering

ok i dnt have my foid card but have it ordered and i cant seem to find a straight awnser and i cant get ahold of the state to awnser my ?

so i was wondering since i have my gun card in the mail for 4 weeks and i have the reciept for it and i have my old one CAN I HUNT??? thats wat im wondering


I can't tell you what to do, but I was in a similair situation once. I had sent off for my FOID 2 months earlier..It was set to expire Dec 31st and I was still goose hunting. The State was backed up processing the FOID's that year, think it was about 03...Anyway I called and they said I can take take my cancelled check or reciept with me afield since it was a renewal, but the discretion is with the CPO if I get checked. The CPO's were aware of the backup.

If you only sent yours in a month earlier and there is no back up issueing FOID's at the state level I'd be careful... Is this a NEW application for a FOID? Will you be hunting with an outfitter?

Call your regional office. They'll have an answer for ya.

Region IV Office
4521 Alton Commerce Pkwy.
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618/462-1181

Smokey I am glad you asked that, I sent of my renewal in July and have not got it back yet. I need to see if they cashed my check and if so give them a call.

they said that the game wardens are looking for more of worse crimes than that of the foid card the man told me that i should be more worried abt the state police since i would get in trouble with them more than the GW so idk im thinking abt going

I applied for my FOID card at John A. Logan college during the outdoor days and I got it back exactly 6 weeks after that. Just in time for duck season.:D

this coming friday will be 4 weeks for me idk i applied for mine at curtsmiths i heard that you get it faster from there idk if its tru but i havnt had one for a year cuz they said they would send me one but nvr did since mine got chopped up lol

I know it is shredded but is it still a valid card Smokey or did it expire? If it's not expired, I would think you would be safe as it's all computerized and any LEO could inquire and see that is valid. If it's valid, you could prob stop by your "buddies" at NAPD and have them print you out a copy of the computerized response or perhaps G's buddy could do it in C'Ville..

well dave seeing i have no friends in the napd that would be hard i signd up for one and it was new and its valid just i dont have anything of it you no ima go just not gunna get caught by the popo u no lol

I think you will be alright.

From the ILCS:

No person may acquire or possess any firearm,

stun gun, or taser within this State without having in his or her possession a Firearm Owner's Identification Card previously issued in his or her name by the Department of State Police under the provisions of this Act

You cannot even have ammunition in your possession without a valid FOID in the union of socialist state of Illinois......

You should call the FOID section in springfield. Ask them what the problem is. I have not heard of any delays. I would be careful about going hunting without a FOID. You know the law, it would be up to the CPO or police officer checking you. And their enforcement action could go any number of ways!! Good luck

The commies took two+ months to get mine to me this year. I think most law enforcment would hammer you to the wall regardless of a reciept/check. All they see is $$$. That's why we have to have them in the first place.

the answer is no and you will get arrested if caught

the state checks foid, hunting licease, hunting tags for mismatches.

sorry

Wow Andy, $10 for 10 years. The state must get a (I'm an idiot for swearing)(I'm an idiot for swearing)(I'm an idiot for swearing)(I'm an idiot for swearing) pot full of money doing FOID's. There are about 10 people that work in the FOID section in Springfield. Things happen, computers crash, criminal history system crashes (alot) and papers just get lost or misplaced.

The State Police is tasked with the FOID problem. It is forced upon the state and its people due to the Chicago democrats.

And look up the definition of a "commie"

Communism is a socioeconomic structure and political ideology that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless society based on common ownership of the means of production and property in general.[1][2][3] Karl Marx posited that communism would be the final stage in human society, evolving into a classless, stateless society of "pure communism".

It's pretty common knowledge in the law enforcement community that the FOID process takes a bit of time. Yes there are a select few that follow the letter of the law regarding the physical possession of the document but nearly everyone I know would never write ticket if it showed that Smokey was valid in the system but just didn't have the physical evidence in his hand. Same exact scenario for a drivers license. That being said, common sense dictates that if ya know it might take a month and a half, ya send it it in even further in advance of the date you really need it so ya don't end up empty handed. Nobody but you gets hurt by the way things are working out so look out for yourself and take a proactive aproach to a bad situation. Correct me if I'm wrong Smokey but wasn't this an issue some time earlier this year, not just within the last 2 month? OK, I'm off my soapbox now. Well....maybe just one more thing. In every profession there are bad eggs and we see it everyday. Don't judge the whole batch by a few bad ones or even a whole town full of bad ones. I guarantee there are plenty of LEO's out there that have the same outdoor passions that you have, feel pretty stongly about anti gun legsilation and so on. Just because they wear the tin doesn't make them the enemy. They put their pants on the same as you do yours in the mornin'. OK...now I'm done.

Wow Andy, $10 for 10 years. The state must get a (I'm an idiot for swearing)(I'm an idiot for swearing)(I'm an idiot for swearing)(I'm an idiot for swearing) pot full of money doing FOID's. There are about 10 people that work in the FOID section in Springfield. Things happen, computers crash, criminal history system crashes (alot) and papers just get lost or misplaced.

The State Police is tasked with the FOID problem. It is forced upon the state and its people due to the Chicago democrats.

And look up the definition of a "commie"

Communism is a socioeconomic structure and political ideology that promotes the establishment of an egalitarian, classless society based on common ownership of the means of production and property in general.[1][2][3] Karl Marx posited that communism would be the final stage in human society, evolving into a classless, stateless society of "pure communism".

Actually, I think the shortened term "commie" conjures up images of the likes of the repressive Chinese and USSR-type gov't (which were obviously not run per THAT definition)...that's why we use it for IL politicians and bureaucrats...

If you use the term "Communist," then I take more on the classical Marx definition (which will never happen anywhere due to human nature)

THE FOID CARD IS AN INFRINGEMENT ON OUR RIGHTS...IT IS COMPLETE BS. (Therefore why the use of the term "commie")

Wow, this got ugly.

Look, same thing happened to me a couple years ago when they were backed up. For future reference to anyone reading....

I kept a copy of the appliction I sent, my current card, and a copy of the "cashed" check my bank sent me. All three were on my person when I went hunting until my new card arrived.

Now, can a CPO ticket you? Yes. But here's the deal, 9 out of 10 are going to let it go if you have that documentation. HOWEVER, if you have violated any other laws (i.e. referencing Smokey's online name, limit violation, no licences or stapmps...) then you can bet they will tack on the lack of a valid FOID to the list of charges.

Now, I'm for the sessation of Chicago as much as any other person that lives south of Cook county. But we are not quite yet living in a Socialist or Communist society. Follow the laws...cover your 6 when you might accidentally step over the line. If however you violation is intentional...then to heck with ya. :D

Out.

Smokey-

You are fine as long as you have a copy of the renewal application. Same thing happened to me a few years back before deer shotgun season. I was sweating not getting my updated FOID card on time for the hunt. Well, it never came after 8 weeks so I called the ILDNR office in Springfield and talked to a CPO and he said as long as I had a copy of the FOID renewal application with me in the field that I would be fine. He said if I was checked that a CPO would just call Springfield to make sure my renewal application was legitimate. The only problem was that I had printed a FOID renewal application online and sent it in to Springfield without making a copy. I told the CPO this and he said there was still no problem. He just told me to print another FOID renewal application online and fill it out to carry with me. That is what I had to do. Hope this helps.

Joe

I would not chance it. They are after money these days.Money from fines not the issuing of permits. Just look at how they run the seat belt program. The officers don't even try to hide that that program is about money any more.They come right out and tell ya "the state needs money so we are pushing enforcement".This I know from personal experience. If you get convicted of not having a card does that effect you ability to get a card in the future? Is it a felony? I would not endanger my right to legally have a gun. Unfortunately this is what America has come down to, you are free to live your life in fear and its only going to get worse.

I think DetectDave hit the nail on the head. We have good ones and bad ones just like every other profession.

Joe: I think that worked a few years ago due to the huge backlog of FOID apps. I dont know if it would work now.

Hopefully the officer would do some leg work and run the name through foid and see if it is valid or just expired. And run a criminal history to make sure that no felonies are there.

And the seatbelt thing is also shoved down our throats because of IDOT and NHTSA. Trust me.... we would much rather be doing other things than seat belt patrols. But....every profession has its good and bad points. We have to do what the boss says if we want a paycheck.

But this whole public aid thing looks interesting!! Sit at home. Watch TV. Go hunting... and go to wal mart on link card recharge day!

I would not chance it.

I would not endanger my right to legally have a gun. Unfortunately this is what America has come down to, ...

No Fun the FOID card is unique to Illinois. No other state requires a card to own a firearm. (to CC maybe, but not to own)

I think DetectDave hit the nail on the head. We have good ones and bad ones just like every other profession.

We know and apprieciate the good ones! Thanks for your service.

No Fun the FOID card is unique to Illinois. No other state requires a card to own a firearm. (to CC maybe, but not to own)


Well now that we have a Illinois Senator as President I think is safe to say the poison that has infected our great state will now spread to the rest of the country. The question poised by Smokey would not even be considered if the law makers where force to follow the constitution of the United States of America and not be allowed to create a gray area to hide behind like the FOID card system has done. This FOID system has fostered the notion that its not taking folk second amendment rights away its just providing a way to keep guns from the bad element. But as we see in Smokeys case it is interfering with his right to have a gun because within this system its left up to the discretion of another individual. And like oX said " If however you violation is intentional...then to heck with ya." .. Well if Smokey goes out he is intentionally in violation because he is not in possession of a valid F.O.I.D. card. So a lot of people will just say to heck with him hes a criminal..This whole system and the mind set it conditions the population at large into accept paves the way for further surrendering of our gun rights. Next target will be the ammunition. No one wants to be known as the first President or the Governor in history to take our guns away. But to restrict ammo... Well now thats something folks in the citys could be talked into voting for. Ammo restriction is not as clear cut as BANNING guns out right.Anyway I would say its not worth chancing going out with out the proper "papers".

Im in smokeys same shoes only i sent in for mine in late july...i have called up to the state and they tell me its still processing. soo they arent going to stop me from hunting

Im in smokeys same shoes only i sent in for mine in late july...i have called up to the state and they tell me its still processing. soo they arent going to stop me from hunting
Another victim of the pseudo quasi fascists in Chicago..........:mad:

I think that someone in the FOID office has taken the phone off of the hook. Always busy. I really want to try for a deer in a few weeks, but i cant without a FOID. I applied at Curt Smith's in early Oct.

Phisherman keep trying, I did and finally got through. They had mailed mine but had put the wrong address on it so they sent it again and as soon as I got it I had to go do a change of address on on-line because the card still had the wrong address.

I'm thinking about calling my state sen or rep. Arent they supposed to help you negotiate the govt?

Update: got through. took 2 minutes to navigate the press 1 system that basically keeps asking if you have waited 30 days over and over. Then it tells me to wait 12 minutes. Keep waiting.....

Alright total time on the phone: 16 minutes. Talked to a curt, professional gentleman who told me that my D.L was invalid with the SoS and that was why i was rejected. Um, no its not. He checked the D.L number on the app against my D.L somehow a 6 looked like an 8 on the application according to him and that caused my initial app to be rejected in Dec. He made the fixes in the system and said i would have it by next wed. Just in time to try and borrow a gun for antlerless season and try to harvest my first deer.

This brings up 2 points:

1 Since when do you need a D.L to get a FOID card? Why did that reject me?

2. They don't notify you when you are rejected so that you can investigate and/or appeal.

I have zero confidence in the system doing any good. now more than ever.

On point 1 they could have run you through the system and found out thy had misread the DL # it is the ISP so they can do that but apparently they don't care if you get your FOID card or not.

On point 2 I don't know.


BTW, on mine they thought my address ended in 9 when it was a 4 (I have the same address ending in 4 on my expired FOID card) and they had no way to find out my address so they could re-mail it to me after it was returned for a incorrect address.

I am with you, I don't see where this system is going to do any good ether but being a law abiding citizen I get a FOID card.

Ok. Humans are human. They make mistakes. If a 9 looked like a four or a 6 looked like an 8, they have a huge volume of paperwork that runs through their office. It is our (person filling out the form) responsibility to print legibly and clearly. I suppose they could make it a rule that they all have to be typed and notarized. But people would still gripe because they have to be typed.

And the DL thing? If you notice that the pic you sent in is not the same that is on your FOID. At least it was not on mine or any of the other people I have talked to. What they did was compare the pic you sent in with the pic that is on your DL. Then they take the pic from the DL and put it on your FOID. Why??? I dont really know. Unless it is to prevent identity theft.

Again, I am not defending the foid section or the FOID card itself. Just trying to get what is really happening out there...

Just to let everyone know. Especially the ladies, My wife's FOID expired Jan 01 2009, she sent in her application in November, the State cashed the check 24 November. To date(03Feb09) she has still not received her FOID. She called them today and was advised that everyone that has ever used another name is pulled from the pile and put into another pile for further research. The lady admitted they do not work that pile unless someone calls in asking about the status of their FOID. The excuse given is not enough people to work the section. So Ladies, beware when renewing your FOID and you enter you maiden name in the block asking if you have ever had another name.

Call State Police office.. to be sure..

Nuthouse - that may well be what's causing the dragging of feet on mine.. thanks for that heads up.. Yikes I've had three names.. grrrr

Nuthouse - that may well be what's causing the dragging of feet on mine.. thanks for that heads up.. Yikes I've had three names.. grrrr
From the Illinois State Police Foid Website:
"If you have not received a card or letter by the end of the 30 day processing period, you may contact a customer service representative at 217-782-7980, Monday through Friday from 8:30 am to 5:00 pm."

Be prepared for a long wait(about 20-30 min) and don't call 30 minutes before 5:00 pm. Wife called Monday at 4:38 pm and was on hold till 4:50 pm when the message said "all lines are closed please call again tomorrow."

That sounds like grounds for an EOT complaint against the state if they're setting them aside for everyone who's used more than one name (like almost every married woman in the state).