Bob
09-29-2006, 14:09
Bowtechman (http://www.siloutdoors.com/members/profile/623074/Bowtechman.htm)
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Sep 19, 2006
9:01 PM http://www.siloutdoors.com/s.gif i shoot Muzzy's and love them. it seems i get good blood but not what i see the guys on t.v. shooting expandables do, why? and it seems their are a ton of them. Lets hear it who shoots what? bob--o (http://www.siloutdoors.com/members/profile/584206/bob--o.htm)
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31 post s
Sep 20, 2006
7:18 AM http://www.siloutdoors.com/s.gif First off welcome to the forum Bowtechman. (wonder what you shoot?) Personally I am a Thunderhead guy. I think muzzys and thunderheads have accounted for too many deer to worry about their effectivness. I'm also a student of the "If it ain't broke; don't fix it" mentality. I've been using the same Easton 2314 arrows and T-head 125's for a long time, and killed plenty of deer with em. Never shot an expandable, but to me, moving parts can fail. That is my only reasoning behind not shooting them. As for blood trail, I've never really had a problem. On TV they rarely even show a blood trail, unless they are plugging the latest BH seems like. Cuz (http://www.siloutdoors.com/members/profile/625035/Cuz.htm)
3 post s
Sep 22, 2006
12:35 PM http://www.siloutdoors.com/s.gif Bowtech Man-
I was strictly a Muzzy user for years and still have a set of 125 4-blades in my archery box. I had the same trouble with blood trails as well with Muzzy. Never had much trouble finding the deer though because, as long as the shot was in the boiler room, the deer never went more than 60 yards...I 'd either see them fall or hear them crash.
4 years ago, a buddy and I went to Wyoming on an archery mule deer hunt. With the high winds and long shots typical of western hunting I was afraid that wind planing might be a problem so, after ALOT of research on expandables, I bought Rocky Mountain Snyper 125's. Anyway, just for the heck of it, I used them instead of Muzzy for the IL deer season. I killed 2 mature does with them that season and was very impressed with their performance. The wound is huge and I noticed good blood trails and quick recoveries. I am still using them and have killed alot of deer with them...several of the deer I killed with them died in sight. Also, they fly EXACTLY like my field points. Muzzy I usually had to do some tuning on. RM Snypers are tough too. One doe that I killed came in real close and was quartering to me. I was aiming for that spot between her neck and shoulder to get the heart. Anyway, I guess as soon as I released the arrow she moved her head to look back. The arrow struck the doe in the neck and the RM Snyper penetrated through the vertebrae and sliced the jugular. She dropped in her tracks and a huge pool of blood followed. I dug that Snyper out of her neck when I cleaned her and it was unscathed.
I would recommend doing some more research for them online. Go to www.bowsite.com and do a search for them on their Forum. There are alot of hunters that like them out there.
Good luck, Cuz
Cuz (http://www.siloutdoors.com/members/profile/625035/Cuz.htm)
4 post s
Sep 22, 2006
12:53 PM http://www.siloutdoors.com/s.gif Bowtech Man- I think the primary reason for poor blood trails with Muzzy has to do with shot angle and small size of the exit holes they leave. When you shoot from an elevated position the exit hole tends to be low, and with the small cutting diameter of Muzzy (at least with the 4-blade Muzzy that I always used), it is easy for that hole to get clogged with coagulating blood, lung material, hair, hide, gut, whatever. Most of the bleeding then is done internally which, is very lethal but can make the animal harder to track. Cuz
1 post
Sep 19, 2006
9:01 PM http://www.siloutdoors.com/s.gif i shoot Muzzy's and love them. it seems i get good blood but not what i see the guys on t.v. shooting expandables do, why? and it seems their are a ton of them. Lets hear it who shoots what? bob--o (http://www.siloutdoors.com/members/profile/584206/bob--o.htm)
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31 post s
Sep 20, 2006
7:18 AM http://www.siloutdoors.com/s.gif First off welcome to the forum Bowtechman. (wonder what you shoot?) Personally I am a Thunderhead guy. I think muzzys and thunderheads have accounted for too many deer to worry about their effectivness. I'm also a student of the "If it ain't broke; don't fix it" mentality. I've been using the same Easton 2314 arrows and T-head 125's for a long time, and killed plenty of deer with em. Never shot an expandable, but to me, moving parts can fail. That is my only reasoning behind not shooting them. As for blood trail, I've never really had a problem. On TV they rarely even show a blood trail, unless they are plugging the latest BH seems like. Cuz (http://www.siloutdoors.com/members/profile/625035/Cuz.htm)
3 post s
Sep 22, 2006
12:35 PM http://www.siloutdoors.com/s.gif Bowtech Man-
I was strictly a Muzzy user for years and still have a set of 125 4-blades in my archery box. I had the same trouble with blood trails as well with Muzzy. Never had much trouble finding the deer though because, as long as the shot was in the boiler room, the deer never went more than 60 yards...I 'd either see them fall or hear them crash.
4 years ago, a buddy and I went to Wyoming on an archery mule deer hunt. With the high winds and long shots typical of western hunting I was afraid that wind planing might be a problem so, after ALOT of research on expandables, I bought Rocky Mountain Snyper 125's. Anyway, just for the heck of it, I used them instead of Muzzy for the IL deer season. I killed 2 mature does with them that season and was very impressed with their performance. The wound is huge and I noticed good blood trails and quick recoveries. I am still using them and have killed alot of deer with them...several of the deer I killed with them died in sight. Also, they fly EXACTLY like my field points. Muzzy I usually had to do some tuning on. RM Snypers are tough too. One doe that I killed came in real close and was quartering to me. I was aiming for that spot between her neck and shoulder to get the heart. Anyway, I guess as soon as I released the arrow she moved her head to look back. The arrow struck the doe in the neck and the RM Snyper penetrated through the vertebrae and sliced the jugular. She dropped in her tracks and a huge pool of blood followed. I dug that Snyper out of her neck when I cleaned her and it was unscathed.
I would recommend doing some more research for them online. Go to www.bowsite.com and do a search for them on their Forum. There are alot of hunters that like them out there.
Good luck, Cuz
Cuz (http://www.siloutdoors.com/members/profile/625035/Cuz.htm)
4 post s
Sep 22, 2006
12:53 PM http://www.siloutdoors.com/s.gif Bowtech Man- I think the primary reason for poor blood trails with Muzzy has to do with shot angle and small size of the exit holes they leave. When you shoot from an elevated position the exit hole tends to be low, and with the small cutting diameter of Muzzy (at least with the 4-blade Muzzy that I always used), it is easy for that hole to get clogged with coagulating blood, lung material, hair, hide, gut, whatever. Most of the bleeding then is done internally which, is very lethal but can make the animal harder to track. Cuz