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BAM
04-02-2007, 10:02
Already pulled three off.......Spring time is the worse when they first come out so be careful...Lymes gets overlooked alot because the symptoms are flu like..


:mad: My husband got Rocky Mountain Spotted fever which is from a tick and got deathly sick and had to be sent to Barnes Hospital in St louis for over two weeks. My cousin also had it about 15 years ago and died from it because they didn't know that was wrong with him. B had several symptoms but no tick bite and no "spotted rash" that is common. We do hunt, fish, and live by the woods so I looked into it more and asked for him to be tested for that. There are only two places in the united states that does that and it takes 14 days to get the results! He got really sick, like drenching sweats, high fever,swollen lymph nodes, headaches, achy all over, tired, throwing up green,light headed, hallucinating,:eek: and couldn't even walk right before I took him to the er. He was put on I.v. morphine and antibotics right away. Now some docs said you can get it from a mosquitoes and fleas and some said you couldn't. I dont' know but they checked him from head to toe several times and never could find a tick bite. Usually when you get bitten there will be a "Bullzeye Rash" around the bite. Well they never did find a bite so we are unsure how he got it. Anyway make sure you get the head out and not with your fingers, use tweezers because the fluids can get into your blood. And wear light colored clothing, because you can see them on white alot easier than black. There are actually several different dieases that you can get from them that I was unaware of. Rocky Mountain is fatal if you don't get treated quickly. Doxycyline is usually the antibotic that treats tick born illnesses. Alot of people think that it is just the flu. They seemed to think it was Meningitis for a while and done spinal taps but they all came out neg. All I know is one day he was fine and the next week he was in st louis and couldn't even get out of the hospital bed. The sickness and recovery took about 6mos until he got back to normal.Avon Bug Gaurd works really well we noticed and you can put that on the whole family. They even have different scents so you don't have to stink like some of them do. My husband didn't want to use it at first because it was "AVON" lol, but now carries it in the truck and the boat and uses it everytime.:p

Here is some info on them:
There are two families of ticks, the Ixodidae (hard ticks) and Argasidae (soft ticks). Those that are of importance to hikers, campers, and pet owners are in the family Ixodidae. Several species of hard ticks are important because they bite people and pets. Some can also transmit diseases. Therefore, this article will cover only some species of hard ticks, so you can learn what they look like, how they live, and how to protect yourself from tick-borne diseases.

The American dog tick, Dermacentor variabilis, is the most frequently encountered tick here in New Hampshire. It is about 1/8" (4—5mm) long, brown and tan, with an obvious mottled pattern. It is a "three-host tick," so-named because it must find and feed on an animal three times to complete its life cycle.

It begins life as an egg, one of hundreds laid in a mass on the ground by a female tick. The egg hatches into a larva, which has six legs. Larvae remain on the ground or vegetation while waiting for a small mammal (usually rodent) to brush by. It attaches to the animal and feeds for several days. Then it drops off and molts to the nymph stage, which has eight legs. Again it waits for a host (usually a rodent) to brush by. When that happens, the tick attaches and feeds on it for several days. When fully fed it drops off and molts to the adult stage.

Adults wait on shrubs or tall grass and attach to larger mammals such as people, deer, or pets. They also take several days to fully engorge (feed). A fully engorged female can be almost the size of a dime, and appears smooth and shiny. Mating takes place on the host, and when fully fed the females drop off and lay eggs. The cycle can be as short as three months or as long as two or more years. American dog ticks can survive a very long time without feeding. This species can transmit Rocky Mountain Spotted fever, which is rare in New England but more common farther south.

Stories in the press have confused many people about the relationship of this tick and Lyme Disease. Despite the fact that the Lyme Disease spirochete has been found in American dog ticks, tests have revealed that the tick can’t transmit the organism to its hosts. Therefore it isn’t involved in the spread of Lyme Disease.

The winter tick, Dermacentor albipictus, is similar in size and appearance to the American dog tick. Unlike that species, the winter tick isn’t active in the summer and it completes its entire development on one host. It is often found on moose, deer, or horses during the fall, winter, or spring. It doesn’t commonly bite people. Eggs of this species hatch in the spring, but the larvae remain bunched together in a torpor all summer long. They don’t become active until cold weather returns in fall. After finding a suitable host, this species remains on the animal, feeding and molting until it has fully grown. Then it drops off, and eggs are laid on the ground in the spring.

The brown dog tick, Rhipicephalus sanguineus, is slightly smaller and different in shape than the American dog tick. It is reddish-brown in color and lacks the mottling that the Dermacentor species have. It has a life cycle very similar to other three-host ticks. It can be a problem in kennels and zoos, but rarely bites people. It has a strong tendency to climb upwards, and hides in cracks in kennel roofs or in ceilings and porches. In heated buildings, it occurs at any time of the year. It is unlikely this tick would be found anywhere but in or adjacent to kennels or houses where dogs are kept.

Ixodes scapularis is the blacklegged tick. Until 1993, northern specimens were considered a different species, called the deer tick (Ixodes dammini). It looks similar to the other tick species mentioned, but is smaller and more rounded. It lacks the mottling of Dermacentor species. Adult males are very dark brown, almost black. Adult females are two-toned: dark chestnut brown on head, legs, and scutum; and orange-red on the rear half of the body. Nymphs are about the size of a pinhead (1—2mm), and adults are just over 1/16" (2—3mm) long. This species has received much attention because it is the vector of (the organism that spreads) Lyme Disease. Survey results from New Hampshire, Maine, and Massachusetts have shown that this species is most abundant along coastal regions.

The life history is typical of other three-host ticks. Larvae prefer mice, other small rodents, and birds. Nymphs commonly bite these hosts plus medium sized animals and people. The life cycle takes two years. Adults most commonly attach to large animals, such as white-tailed deer. They are most active from mid-September to mid-November, but activity continues in mild weather when there is little or no snow covering. Some adults are found in the spring. This species will readily bite people. Scientists have shown that high populations of deer are necessary for this tick to be abundant. In Massachusetts, the incidence of Lyme Disease is strongly linked with high deer populations.

Others ticks similar to the blacklegged tick include: Ixodes cookei, which bite people, dogs, cats, woodchucks, porcupines, and other animals; Ixodes banksi, which primarily attacks beavers and muskrats; Ixodes muris, which bites mice and sometimes cats and people; and Ixodes marxi, which typically attacks squirrels.

Tick-Borne Diseases
Ticks can spread several diseases, including Lyme, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, Tularemia, Tick Paralysis, Powassan Encephalitis, Babesiosis, and Colorado Tick Fever. Incidences of each vary by region. Here in New England, for example, it is unlikely you’d encounter any of these diseases except Lyme.

Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever:

This disease is caused by a small micro-organism, a Rickettsia. Until about 1930, it was thought to occur only in the Rocky Mountain region, hence its name. Today there are far more cases reported in the eastern states, especially in Virginia, North Carolina, northern Georgia, and nearby states. The disease usually appears in late spring, summer, or early fall. The American dog tick is the primary vector in the east. Symptoms usually appear 3—10 days after being bitten by an infected tick. Headache, backache, and fever are common symptoms. A spreading, spot-lie rash usually develops on wrists and ankles 2—5 days after symptoms begin. The disease can be fatal if not treated. It is treatable with antibiotics.

Tularemia:

"Rabbit fever" is caused by a bacterium. It can be contracted from skinning and cleaning rabbits, or from being bitten by infected ticks. In the east, most cases occur in the fall and winter and are presumed to be associated with hunting rabbits or other small mammals. Fever and flu-like symptoms are typical, along with swollen lymph nodes. Certain antibiotics are effective in treating the disease. The American and brown dog ticks are among the species that can transmit the bacterium.

Tick Paralysis:

Tick paralysis is caused by toxic substances in the secretions of feeding ticks. In people, it occurs most frequently in children under the age of seven. Young girls are common victims, probable because it is difficult to detect ticks in long hair. The most frequent site of biting that causes "paralysis" is the back of the scalp. The difficulty in moving or controlling arms or legs rapidly disappears when the feeding tick is discovered and removed. In the U.S., it is most frequently seen in the Southeast and Northwest. The American dog tick has been known to cause Tick paralysis.

Lyme Disease:

Lyme Disease was first identified in the U.S. in the mid 1970s near Lyme, Connecticut. It is caused by a spirochete, an elongated, corkscrew-shaped micro-organism. Since its discovery near Lyme and islands off Cape Cod, the number of cases has rapidly increased. The disease has been frequently reported from Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, New York, Wisconsin, and New Jersey. Lyme Disease is now the most common vector-borne (transmitted by insects or ticks) disease in the U.S., and is becoming very common in parts of Europe.

Symptoms of Lyme Disease frequently (but not always) begin with a characteristic red zone around the site of the bite. This usually appears within 20 days of being bitten by an infected tick, and slowly expands in size. It is often ring-shaped and warm to the touch. People who have never been bitten by I. Scapularis are less likely to show the rash. Fatigue, fever, headaches, stiffness, and pain in muscles and joints may occur. If left untreated, the rash may disappear, and dizziness, irregular heartbeat, arthritis, and nervous system disorders can follow. Swelling and pain in the knees are common symptoms in untreated cases months or years later.

Dogs, horses, and cattle also suffer joint disorders caused by Lyme Disease spirochet. Most cases of Lyme Disease are contracted from late April through October. The period of highest risk is during May or June, when the nymphs are abundant and active. In people, most cases are transmitted by the nymphs because they are extremely small and easily overlooked. Also, an infected nymph can usually transmit the disease in two days or less of feeding. Adult ticks take longer to transmit the spirochet. White-footed mice are the main reservoir for the spirochet. Treatment is most successful in the early stages with the use of antibiotics. Researchers are also studying control by elimination of deer, and by the distribution of insecticide-treated cotton. The cotton is taken by mice for bedding, and kills ticks in the mouse nests. Personal protection (repellents, avoidance, etc.) is an effective way to avoid the disease, and an immunization is now available.

Safe Removal of Ticks
Since tick bites are painless, ticks are often discovered after they have begun to feed. Removal is fairly easy, provided it is done correctly. Tweezers are recommended to grasp the tick, since bare fingers may get contaminated by a disease organism. It is also much easier to get a firm grip of the head with tweezers.

Firmly grasp the tick as close to its head as possible and pull gently, using slow, steady pressure. DO NOT yank it or pull it sideways, since this might break the head off inside the wound. Tick mouth parts are barbed, so it may take two or three minutes for removal. Check to make sure the head comes out, rather than breaking off. It may be wise to apply an antiseptic to the wound after removing the tick. Touching a hot match to an embedded tick, or covering it with petroleum jelly or other substances is not recommended. None of these "tricks" have been proven effective, and they may instead cause injury.

Protecting Yourself from Tick Bites
The most obvious way to avoid contact with ticks is to stay away from tall grass and bushy areas that are prime tick habitat. May through August are prime months for the American dog tick. April through early July, and September through mid-November are periods when deer tick (blacklegged tick) nymphs or adults are most active.

If you do spend time in tick-infested areas, wear proper clothing. Start with good shoes (no sandals or bare feet) and long pants tucked into your socks. A long-sleeved shirt with snug collar and cuffs will also offer protection if it’s tucked in at the waist, and a hat is recommended as well. Dressing this way helps keep ticks on the outside of your clothing, where they can be brushed away when spotted. Light-colored clothing allows for easier detection. For added protection, you can treat your clothes with a tick repellent. Socks, ankles, legs, and pant legs are the best places to treat. You can even find specially made tick-proof or tick-resistant clothing.

If you have been in tick-infested fields or woods, monitor yourself, your children, and your pets every day. Inspect your clothes carefully, then undress and examine your body as well. Don’t neglect to check your head, especially if you have long hair. Ticks tend to crawl upward, and if they can’t get inside your clothing, they’ll end up on your head or neck.

If you find a tick that has already begun to feed, carefully remove it as described above. If you’re concerned it might be a type that transmits disease, place it in a jar and take it to a cooperative extension county office or state entomologist. Be sure to record the date and location of the bite. If a rash forms around the area of a tick bite, see your doctor. In some cases, reaction to a tick bite is from an allergy. If your pet develops joint disorders, see a veterinarian for advice.

You can reduce the chances of tick problems in and around your home by keeping the lawn mowed, and keeping a mowed strip between play areas and thick brush. Insecticides may also be of help in cases of severe infestation. Use pesticides with care and carefully follow the label.

flatlander
04-02-2007, 12:48
I hate them things, they have been out in Hamilton Co. for about a month, in the area I am in the woods at.

I use Repel Permanone and wear rubber boots and it works well.
A little costly and not very healthy but it keeps the ticks off most of the time.

Bob
04-02-2007, 12:56
I use Repel Permanone and wear rubber boots and it works well.
A little costly and not very healthy but it keeps the ticks off most of the time.

Correct me if I'm wrong FL, but you don't put that stuff on your skin, just the clothes you plan on wearing; correct?

I have a can of Deep Woods Off in the boat, truck, camper, and house. Now if I can only remember to spray it on before I get out there.:cool:

Brad
04-02-2007, 13:16
i pulled at least ten of those dreaded little things off in an hour out at pit 3 this past friday

flatlander
04-02-2007, 13:35
Correct me if I'm wrong FL, but you don't put that stuff on your skin, just the clothes you plan on wearing; correct?


Right
Spray it on the clothes and let them dry BEFORE wearing them.
I usually keep them in a plastic trash bag when I'm not wearing them so they dont need the Permanone reapplied as often.

The ticks in the (woods) area's I'm out in use that Deep Woods Off as a drink on their blood bath breaks. LOL

Smokey Mc Pot
04-02-2007, 22:10
took my pup swimming about a week ago and i pulled about 15 of those pin heads off of me, the river in the fall is really bad with those little ones they suck cant find them ever

Quackaddict59
04-02-2007, 22:24
went to peabody river king this past sunday, only picked off one ,but didnt really do any heavy walking in tall grass. man there were some rude people out there.

Smokey Mc Pot
04-02-2007, 23:31
what kind of rude people wat did they do to piss you off so bad im not defending the people im just wondering

Quackaddict59
04-03-2007, 00:14
had my beagle out there and he ran up to some people and was sniffing and wanting to be petted and they were like get your F***ing dog out of here. and when people dont wave back that are just driving by. they look at ya like your stupid or something.

Smokey Mc Pot
04-03-2007, 08:52
had my beagle out there and he ran up to some people and was sniffing and wanting to be petted and they were like get your F***ing dog out of here. and when people dont wave back that are just driving by. they look at ya like your stupid or something.

yeah i knowwhat umean they dontwave they arejust a-holes

josh
04-03-2007, 09:00
sounds like you had a bad day. every time i go out there which is atleast 3 or 4 times a week, most people are fairly freindly. very unusual the people not waving to you.

Steven K
04-03-2007, 11:13
sounds like you had a bad day. every time i go out there which is atleast 3 or 4 times a week, most people are fairly freindly. very unusual the people not waving to you.

I deff agree most people are usually friendly there, as far as ticks go, i picked three off me last nite.:mad:

BAM
04-03-2007, 11:33
Right now they are lookin for any type of host to attach itself too so watch out!

uncle matt
05-06-2007, 18:52
The only good way to remove a tick. I have them in my tackle box, glovebox and pack.



http://www.baproducts.com/sawyer.htm#pliers

Luc24
05-06-2007, 20:09
(I'm an idiot for swearing)(I'm an idiot for swearing)(I'm an idiot for swearing)(I'm an idiot for swearing), I dont think Ill ever go out to the pits anymore.....at least on foot, geez.

flatlander
05-06-2007, 20:21
The only good way to remove a tick. I have them in my tackle box, glovebox and pack.



http://www.baproducts.com/sawyer.htm#pliers



Are the 2 round holes on the handle to measure for P & Y ticks ?

LOL http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a231/silbowhunter/roflmao.gif




http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a231/silbowhunter/ynowar.gif

Bob
05-07-2007, 06:18
(I'm an idiot for swearing)(I'm an idiot for swearing)(I'm an idiot for swearing)(I'm an idiot for swearing), I dont think Ill ever go out to the pits anymore.....at least on foot, geez.

Just wear shorts. Its easy to feel the the buggers crawling around then, and you can see em.

HIGHCOUNTRY
05-07-2007, 21:27
Yes indeed they are out and bad. I hunting in my blind today up the river and they were all over the place. That SAWYER TICK SPRAY IS THE BEST THING I'VE SEEN YET. (Sawyer Permethrin Tick Repellent and Deet Plus) After a few on my boot to see if it works and they jump right off. So I sprayed the inside of the blind and it was good to go. I will be up at basspro buying a few more cans of that stuff this weekend...

Smokey Mc Pot
05-07-2007, 22:46
sweet man but dont you get fummed out by the smell i would think you couldnt handle it but yu know some people it dont bother and some it does plus the river is horrible for them things god would of had 2 extra days off if he didnt create ticks or mesquitoes :D

Bob
05-08-2007, 06:26
sweet man but dont you get fummed out by the smell i would think you couldnt handle it but yu know some people it dont bother and some it does plus the river is horrible for them things god would of had 2 extra days off if he didnt create ticks or mesquitoes :D

If there were no bugs attachin; we wouldn't know the joy of scratchin.:p Big Smith Hillbilly Band.

uncle matt
05-08-2007, 20:34
looks like plastic wire snippers

Same principal as wire snippers except there jaws don't actually touch or come together. They stay a bit apart.

BAM
04-06-2008, 20:43
Ok guys just wanted to bump this.Ticks are out in full force again.......We pulled around 6 or so off of us today.......:mad:

lifestudent55
04-18-2008, 18:14
So...since the weather's getting nice and a lot of folks are getting out this weekend to enjoy it, what's the best stuff for keeping them bloodsuckin b*st*dges off?

gretchensteele
04-18-2008, 18:36
Life I wish I knew..no matter what I have tried..including the industrial strength stuff from my logger pals does not seem to work well for me...
I have a couple of bites that are pretty worrisome looking right now...
I think last night I got about 30 off of me...and that was using bug dope..can you imagine if I hadn't???

flatlander
04-18-2008, 18:37
So...since the weather's getting nice and a lot of folks are getting out this weekend to enjoy it, what's the best stuff for keeping them bloodsuckin b*st*dges off?

http://www.siloutdoors.com/showthread.php?t=4918

lifestudent55
04-18-2008, 18:44
Thanks flatlander. Due to a quirk that link didn't show up with the new posts. I'll have to see if I can find me some repellent with permanone tonight so we're ready in the morning.

flatlander
04-18-2008, 18:53
Thanks flatlander. Due to a quirk that link didn't show up with the new posts. I'll have to see if I can find me some repellent with permanone tonight so we're ready in the morning.

WalMart has it in the camping section

lifestudent55
04-18-2008, 19:02
WalMart has it in the camping section

Sweet, because that was where I was going to check. They're about the only place open when I get off work.

Gazza
04-18-2008, 19:16
Just got two, yes only two, bloated buggers off the dog. Likely she picked them up last weekend on our ramble. Fortunately, I didn't pick up any. So it's time for her Biospot treatment and me to be more vigilant.

wolfgang
04-20-2008, 19:10
My dad got 2 on him today just walking in tall grass when we were sighting in our .270 and .22's, there were also some crawling on our gun vice.

P.S. found on in my hair 2 minutes after writing this, can't wait to see how many I find in the shower.

BAM
04-20-2008, 19:31
While up at Rend didn't see any ticks again.......:D Back home into the house, pulled one off crawling on my sock........:mad:

Bigduke
04-20-2008, 19:33
YES THEY ARE!

Pulled 3 of the little parasites off me today. I even sprayed down w/repellent!

BAM
03-27-2009, 17:58
Wanted to bump this thread again this year.....

I guess with the shrooms comes the ticks as well.:rolleyes:

andy
03-27-2009, 18:03
I pulled my first one off yesterday and it itches like crazy.

gretchensteele
03-27-2009, 18:40
The ticks are definitely out...
I've got 4 bites cooking now ( ones that I missed and found the next morning..attached - ack) .. and was flicking em off enough yesterday that my partner in crime was about ready to club me.. I think I was making him feel a little itchy LOL

SWAMPMAN
03-28-2009, 08:28
Pulled some off of Libby when I took her and Belle down to the creek for a swim last weekend. Like Bam said: mushrooms=ticks. They seem to show up at about the same time.