As I have said in the Bee Ess area, I was laid off from my job of ten years Aug 28th.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070828/ap_on_hi_te/earthlink

Then last night received a call from a guy I have run into before. Long story short I gained permission from his great grandmother to hunt the family farm he was mad and ran me out, or well I felt the tension and politely withdrew with out argue. Well he tells me he has my stands in the back of his truck... I was like what??? Apperantly he leased all of the hunting ground I had permission to hunt. I called the owner and he said it was a good deal and could use the money. I do not blame the owner, I would do it too if placed in that situation. I begged to stay on the property for bow season and told him I would doe hunt only anything to stay on the property. He was not sensitive to my situation. He told me I could pick up my stands at the barn the next day. Wow, I feel like I have been punched in the stomach from the lay off then right hooked in the jaw over the leased property.

End Note there were ten+ people that hunted this 360 acres for free and all have been contacted to no longer hunt on that ground.

Family is doing great, and roof over our heads so things could be worse.

~Jeff Thanks for listening...

Just when you think your the only one that has problems, someone reassures you your not alone!!!! Hopefully things get better for you.......I would make sure and rock in the meantime though.....

Jeff~ try General Dynamics- ( out at the Crab Orchard Refuge)...They might have computer positions there too....I thought I wanted to go back to work and applied for a desk job and they called, but I decided to stay at home a little longer, anyway they were suppose to get a big grant or something if I remember correctly and was hiring........I don't know how hard it really is to get on though.......

GEE WHIZ!! He buddy we still give a rat's butt about you here though!!! :)

Another option this time of year is working harvest as a farm hand...lousy pay and long hours, but it's usually cash so it wouldn't screw up your unemployment and maybe you could work hunting permission out of it too....

Zing-

Sorry to hear about your misfourtunes but, as you said, at least you and your family have your health and each other. Things could definately be worse.

As for the leasing I have had the same thing happen to me numerous times. It is what hunting is going to unfortunatley. Soon, it is going to come to the point where you are going to have to pay to hunt private or settle for public. I have had many opps to get in on leases but, as of now, I'm refusing to. I'm not sure I ever will do a lease. I kind of enjoy the challenge and adventure of public land hunting anyway.

Joe