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Chasebaker41
07-10-2007, 16:15
What do you like to make homemade????

I like to make Scent Elimination Spray
Scent Station
Deer Feeders
Deer Attractant


Chase Baker

flatlander
07-10-2007, 16:31
You do know feeding deer is illegal in IL, 12 months a year ?

Bob
07-10-2007, 16:45
As is attractant...

your working your way to FL banning you. He has an itchy finger.

Chasebaker41
07-10-2007, 17:54
Yes..I know..I make the stuff and sell it to some people out of state

Chasebaker41
07-10-2007, 18:15
I have buddys from Oregon,Kentucky,Oklahoma,kansas,Missouri,and my uncle has a Outfitter in Texas. and I don't know the state laws there.

Bob
07-10-2007, 18:32
I have buddys from Oregon,Kentucky,Oklahoma,kansas,Missouri,and my uncle has a Outfitter in Texas. and I don't know the state laws there.

But you'll sell it to em regardless of the law?

Just asking:confused:

Chasebaker41
07-10-2007, 18:46
Well.. no! I know Texas,Oklahoma,and Oregons laws.They are they only ones i've sold too.But the other guys have not sent the money in..so i'll check out their DNR website

Chasebaker41
07-10-2007, 18:54
What about Food Plots?? I heard that you can have Food Plots and Mineral Stations as long as you hunt at least 100 yds or more away

flatlander
07-10-2007, 19:18
Food plots are fine, can even hunt over them but no Mineral Stations and no feeding.

They changed it a few years ago because of CWD, they claimed.

Use to have to have feeders and mineral station removed at least 12 days (I think it was) before hunting the area.

But they are illegal 12 months out of the year now.

flatlander
07-10-2007, 19:23
I'm not defending anyone

But its not any different then your local Rural King that is selling feeders and feed for deer in the state of IL.


I guess they can claim its for cattle/hogs etc.
But when it has a big OL'Buck pictured on the front of the bag come on :confused:

Chasebaker41
07-10-2007, 20:17
lol....yea...a lot of people use Horse Salt Blocks...i'll be honest I've used them for Trail-Cams...just to see whats around the area!

flatlander
07-10-2007, 20:30
lol....yea...a lot of people use Horse Salt Blocks...i'll be honest I've used them for Trail-Cams...just to see whats around the area!

Right and like it or not thats illegal.

Chasebaker41
07-10-2007, 21:59
Thanks for the info paul!

huntrz
07-10-2007, 22:07
Buchheits in sparta sells all kinds of minerals, deer cocaine, buck bran, the rock, etc, then a sign next to it says, "know your local game laws"...?

Birdhunter1
07-10-2007, 22:09
I feed them enough with corn, beans, sweet corn, clover, sunflowers (this year they are tearing them up something bad!), milo, fescue, and wheat and turnips.
So why feed them anything else?

JDawg if you happen to read john and Jason have been seing some/lots big deer by the old drinking bar and the south field where we use to have a few stands. One the other night they counted 12 points on it! I may actually order a deer permit this year.

Chasebaker41
07-10-2007, 22:46
Captive deer (in pens) need feed too... Rural King sells a bunch of it for that purpose... There are many deer pens in Illinois that most people dont know about... Samsons Ridge for one.... They feed their deer, and can legally becaused they are in an enclosure. Thats the only exception to the rule...
Paul

How do you get a lisence for having deer penned up????

carpsniper
07-11-2007, 00:18
I'm not defending anyone

But its not any different then your local Rural King that is selling feeders and feed for deer in the state of IL.


I guess they can claim its for cattle/hogs etc.
But when it has a big OL'Buck pictured on the front of the bag come on :confused:
Right! and it's two or three times more than Cattle or Hog feed.

I asked a CPO about this after the law went into effect and Farm King still had "Deer" blocks, Deer "cocaine" and other feeds and attractants on sale. His answer was that "It's not illeagal to sell it, just to use it." WHAT???? :eek:
Really POed me but his hands were tied. That is how the law read.

Red
07-11-2007, 03:22
Carpsniper is right there is nothing in the law about selling feeders, attractants or anything of that nature just using them. So Chase from what i understand there is nothing wrong with you producing attractants for the means of selling them. What people do with them after you sell the product has nothing to do with you once its shipped.

And I know that some of the deer pens in Illinois produce sccents and attractants themselves thats why they have the penned up deer.

mdoc
07-11-2007, 06:21
Strange how that works, you can buy Purina deer chow at the local grain elevator/co-op and a nice mineral block witha picture of a deer on it at rural king. You would think it would be illegal.

Joe
07-11-2007, 06:41
Baiting, feeding, and mineral attractants are all legal in Kentucky too. Flatlander you make a good point...why in hades is Rural King selling the stuff right here in IL when they know it is illegal? I approached two teenage guys in a Rural King store the other day who were loading up on the deer cocaine stuff. They were all bragging about how awesome it is. I asked them if they knew it was illegal in IL and they said "f&!k it" and they didn't give a "sh$t". Couple of little smart a$$es.

Bob
07-11-2007, 06:54
Carpsniper is right there is nothing in the law about selling feeders, attractants or anything of that nature just using them. So Chase from what i understand there is nothing wrong with you producing attractants for the means of selling them. What people do with them after you sell the product has nothing to do with you once its shipped.


If you were selling a gun, and the guy said, "this one is good, I'm gonna use it to kill some people." would you still sell it to him?

It's legal.

I believe this is more of a moral issue. RK and Buccheits should VOLUNTARILY remove it from the shelves to promote obeying the law. As it is they promote breaking it. Making more outlaws. They break that law and get away with it, next maybe spotlighting???

mdoc
07-11-2007, 07:08
I know the idea behind the law is to prohibit the spread of CWD. Use of mineral licks and feeders allow many deer to congregate in a small area increasing the likelihood of passing the disease through saliva or infected food or water sources.

Reminder to Illinois landowners and Wildlife Enthusiasts: Don’t Feed Wild Deer

Ban on feeding wild deer in place since 2002 to help prevent spread of CWD
SPRINGFIELD- The Illinois Department of Natural Resources (IDNR) is reminding Illinois residents and visitors of the state’s ban on the feeding of wild deer and other wildlife in areas where wild deer are present. The ban was enacted in 2002 as part of the state’s continuing effort to limit the spread of chronic wasting disease (CWD) in the Illinois wild deer herd.

The ban includes food, salt, mineral blocks and other food products, with some exceptions. For example, bird and squirrel feeders close to homes and incidental feeding of wildlife within active livestock operations are exempt from the ban. For a complete list of the exemptions see the administrative rule 17 Illinois Administrative Code Part 635 on the IDNR web site at http://dnr.state.il.us/legal/adopted/635.pdf

flatlander
07-11-2007, 07:17
And I know that some of the deer pens in Illinois produce sccents and attractants themselves thats why they have the penned up deer.

Scents & attractants are not illegal, there is a difference between a attractant and feed or mineral.

carpsniper
07-11-2007, 08:32
I believe this is more of a moral issue. RK and Buccheits should VOLUNTARILY remove it from the shelves to promote obeying the law. As it is they promote breaking it. Making more outlaws. They break that law and get away with it, next maybe spotlighting???
That's just it "they" don't break the law by selling it. According to the CPO, those buying this stuff "...could be taking it out of state where it is legal." And while it IS possible, we all know better.
I agree that these stores should have removed products which are illegal to use. Or at very least, not order more.

Chasebaker41
07-11-2007, 12:12
Yea.....the mineral company called Luck-Buck has deer penned up for testing.
Down in Hardin,Co. Illinoid they have a couple Elk Farms

flatlander
07-11-2007, 13:10
You'll like this one.
I just received the latest Illinois Game & Fish mag and one of the new products it has in it is called Acorn Rage.

Hole new spin, reads By developing a process for collecting, crushing and bagging real acorns, Wildgame has added a new tool in the deer hunters arsenal.
The product is not just a flavoring, scent or aroma, but an actual taste of a real acorn that captures the fresh oils and aromas found in a ripening acorn that has hit the ground.

In a IL Game & Fish mag something that could be considered illegal to use in IL. :confused:
Even if you put this product on the ground under an Oak it was artificially put there, baiting right ?
Is the IL Game & Fish mag promoting illegal activity ?

Bob
07-11-2007, 13:37
write a letter to the editor or DNR director and ask.

flatlander
07-11-2007, 13:41
Bet I would get a reply ? NOT !

Its all about $$$ when it comes to IL hunting.

huntrz
07-11-2007, 13:43
hey did ya hear about the new deer attractant?
it's called "DEER HEROIN" after they eat it they choke on their own vomit and fall over dead right in front of your stand!

Bob
07-11-2007, 13:45
hey did ya hear about the new deer attractant?
it's called "DEER HEROIN" after they eat it they choke on their own vomit and fall over dead right in front of your stand!


BWA HAHAHAHAHAAAAA:eek:

gotta be better than deer meth where the just stand there and slowly become emaciated.:D

flatlander
07-11-2007, 13:58
hey did ya hear about the new deer attractant?
it's called "DEER HEROIN" after they eat it they choke on their own vomit and fall over dead right in front of your stand!



Fair Chase all the way !

Chasebaker41
07-11-2007, 13:59
good point Flatlander

carpsniper
07-12-2007, 11:38
The thing is there are too many people out there that will do anything to make it easier to get a trophy. Like the kids in Joe's post, they just don't care.

uncle matt
07-14-2007, 09:50
Bet I would get a reply ? NOT !

Its all about $$$ when it comes to IL hunting.


Yeah that's right and IMO it's a darn shame.

Used to behunting neant bust out your kids, buddies, hearts and souls.

Now it's bust out your wallet or go home buddy!

flatlander
07-14-2007, 10:56
The thing is there are too many people out there that will do anything to make it easier to get a trophy. Like the kids in Joe's post, they just don't care.

And a lot of that is learned, where did the slob kids learn to be a slob hunter ?

I think you know the answer to that, slob dads.

huntrz
10-05-2007, 08:55
what about some of the new deer attractants like C'Mere Deer & C'More Deer, these are scent based attractants made to attract deer by smell, as far as I know there are no minerals or salt, you spray on plants & foodplots to attract deer.
sounds like a gimmick, but where do they come in with the law? seems like they wouldn't or shouldn't be considered any different than any scent based attractant, what do you think? I saw a show where hank parker, tv fisherman turned tv hunter is pushing this stuff, comes in sray and powder, the powder seems like it could be considered illegal but spray? I used to like hank's fishin shows, but now he's just turned into another jIMMY hOUSTON, selling gimmick products to get rich. teaching the lazyman's way of hunting, he should have stuck with fishing, I guess it comes down to your own hunting ethics, what you think is ok and what is not ok and how that fits with the hunting laws. I use urine based scents and some manmade artificial scents, I use them mainly to keep deer occupied when they get close so I can draw on them, or to help cover my scent trail as I go in, I've had deer numerous times follow my footsteps right to my tree after putting scent on my boots.

so where do you draw the line? who makes the decision?

BAM
10-05-2007, 09:05
Hank Parker used to be my fav too but I kinda notice that....
Never did care for Jimmy Houston.....
and of course I used to think my dad was bill dance when I was a kiddo.. All the fish seem big then...
IDK huntrz....flat would be a good one to anwser...
Huntrz you need to start a deer tips post .........since your so experienced!

huntrz
10-05-2007, 10:21
Huntrz you need to start a deer tips post .........since your so experienced!

ME! start a deer hunting tip post? lol
experienced at messin' up, yes!, you never met aguy that's flubbed up more shots on good bucks than me, I choke when the good ones walk up, oh well.
I'm definitely not the great white hunter, I've been doin it awhile, but I'm still learning and still make mucho mistakes.

we could start a general "deer huntin' tips" post and let everyone chime in with there tips and things they've learned.